In our never ending pursuit of building the best outboard powered water ski boats we have made a few changes.
No more wood! That is right we no longer will use wood in the hull or the transom. We are going to eventually get the wood out of the seat bottoms too but rest assured wood seat bottoms will outlast the fabric.
In an effort to start a great relationship with your local dealer I am suggesting that you try to purchase your motor locally. A dealer will eventually have to do some work on your engine unless you change the fluids yourself in the lower unit and engine oil for four strokes. The modern outboard engines are pretty much trouble free and some of them even winterize themselves at the push of a button. At the very least the local dealer should be happy if you shop them for the motor and rigging (I hope) even if you end up buying it cheaper somewhere else. Shopping around is a good idea for an expensive purchase.
Here is what you need to know to shop motors for a Dyna-Ski.
20" shaft motor
A recessed control is the preferred style by customers.
3" GPS Speedometer is almost a must have.
3" tachometer, 2" fuel & 2" trim/tilt gauges are good. I like a 2" water pressure gauge and many people like a 2" depth gauge. All in one screens are not popular on water ski boats as the readouts are pretty small.
Electronic controls are nice but a little pricey (I feel). I do have them on my boat.
We normally include hydraulic steering but the dealer will need to install the motor end, fill and bleed the system. I feel that power assisted hydraulic steering is really overkill for a single motored boat but if you want it order it.
17.6 Open Bow maximum motor capacity is 150 HP.
We have sold them with motors from 75 hp on up. The people that buy the smaller motors are usually on horsepower limited lakes. A 115 or larger motor will be a decent water ski boat. Buy a 150 if you want to drive a boat that feels like a sports car or you want to ski and barefoot with a boat full of people. I did some smaller motor performance testing many years ago. Here are the links:
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2012/03/176-open-bow-with-90-e-tec.html
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2012/03/176-open-bow-performance-with-115.html
Most customer go with the hydraulic steering even with the lower
horsepower motors although it really is not needed for 75 - 115 hp. we
feel. Prop selection depends on motor size chosen.
20' Open Bow maximum motor capacity is unlimited.
It is a great water ski boat with 200 hp. Buying a bigger motor means it will cost more for the motor. I have personally with a 200 HO pulled 5 bare footers at 45 mph (GPS) with two people in the boat. With a 250 HO I have pulled 5 bare footers with 7 people in the boat at 45 mph (GPS). Really no need for a 300 hp. or larger engine as a Dyna-Ski boat is not a go fast hull! It is a water ski boat. I always suggest at least a 175 hp. motor on a 20' but the boat is a decent water ski boat with 150 hp. unless you want to ski with a boat full of people or do a lot of bare foot skiing. If you do go with a 200 hp. or larger motor.
There are some other little tweaks and things a dealer may want to know. I am happy to share any information they need or answer any questions they have. They can email or call. If you want me to tell them everything you need I will be happy to do that. Give me the contact info and I will call or email them directly if you or they prefer.
We can get into the options on Dyna-Ski Boats when you get serious.
Pricing the motor and rigging locally is the best place to start. Dealers may do the rigging labor for free if you buy the motor and rigging parts & pieces from them. Some dealers may offer free controls, gauges, longer warranties, etc. Dyna-Ski does not get any incentives from the manufacturers to do these types of things. Sorry.
Dyna-Ski Boats custom builds outboard powered water ski boats for recreational skiers and show ski clubs. We have customers all over the world including Malaysia, the Caribbean, Moscow, Russia, the Cayman Islands and Canada. This blog is used to keep readers informed about what is going on at Dyna-Ski and answers questions that are frequently asked. You can also visit www.dyna-ski.com for more information about our boats. Contact Dyna-Ski at info@dyna-ski.com or call 715-854-7501.
Tuesday, July 2, 2019
Sunday, June 16, 2019
It has been a long slow process . . . . . .
I have wanted to build better and more Dyna-Ski boats, make improvements and add some
additional models for several years. The former boat builder just
wanted me to charge more while his quality dropped with ever
increasing lead time and prices. Not good at all for customers or
Dyna-Ski.
The past year it was taking them a year from the day a Dyna-Ski boat was ordered (and paid for by me) until it was finally ready for the customers. So a change had to be made! I gave it over a year of carefully weighed thought.
I seriously considered pulling the plug on Dyna-Ski however my passion for Dyna-Ski Boats took over and I found a better solution. The former boat builder was helpful initially when he thought I was pulling the plug or selling. Then after he realized I just moved, he was not cooperative and still is not. The time with him had its ups and many downs (in particular the past two years) so it was time to do something. I also made the decision knowing that it would take time to get a new builder up to speed. Little did I remember from changing builders in the distant past how much work and time it required.
The first major new unexpected issue that I ran into was many expensive molds had not been kept up by the former builder. I now don't think he knew how to fix and maintain the molds. So we slowly fixed the molds.
The new boat builder had plenty of their own orders to fill. Building Dyna-Ski boats is different than what they were familiar with doing. I decided it was best to allow them to go slow and not make mistakes from hurrying. The Dyna-Ski products will be much better in the end I firmly believe.
The new builder not having an interior and cover shop has been a big problem.
Fishing boat interiors are simple. They have simple seats that can be bought from lots of places. Water Ski Boats need full high quality interiors. It may surprise you when I tell you that some of the inboard water ski boat builders all use the same interior company. Seriously. The motors are all pretty much the same too. It is all cheaper for cookie cutter boats. Dyna-Ski Boats builds custom made to order boats so using a cookie cutter interior shop was not something I wanted to do and never will. Shipping interiors one at a time is a killer cost wise too. They do semi loads for the bigger companies. The first interior guy that seemed qualified, local and very interested turned out to be a flake (so far). Finding people that are qualified that can and will do the work timely had been a huge task. Logistics is also a concern. It appears I have finally solved the interior issue.
So now it is time to build the best outboard powered water ski boats in the world.
Dyna-Ski
Your patience is appreciated and Dyna-Ski customers will all benefit in the long run. I have done what is best for Dyna-Ski too. It has been hard on me as Dyna-Ski Boats is my passion.
Thanks!
Pete
ps A great internet only radio station is WLHA. It is a free app and also available for android. 5000+ song library. Or on the internet at WLHA Radio
Enjoy it and tell everyone and anyone.
The past year it was taking them a year from the day a Dyna-Ski boat was ordered (and paid for by me) until it was finally ready for the customers. So a change had to be made! I gave it over a year of carefully weighed thought.
I seriously considered pulling the plug on Dyna-Ski however my passion for Dyna-Ski Boats took over and I found a better solution. The former boat builder was helpful initially when he thought I was pulling the plug or selling. Then after he realized I just moved, he was not cooperative and still is not. The time with him had its ups and many downs (in particular the past two years) so it was time to do something. I also made the decision knowing that it would take time to get a new builder up to speed. Little did I remember from changing builders in the distant past how much work and time it required.
The first major new unexpected issue that I ran into was many expensive molds had not been kept up by the former builder. I now don't think he knew how to fix and maintain the molds. So we slowly fixed the molds.
The new boat builder had plenty of their own orders to fill. Building Dyna-Ski boats is different than what they were familiar with doing. I decided it was best to allow them to go slow and not make mistakes from hurrying. The Dyna-Ski products will be much better in the end I firmly believe.
The new builder not having an interior and cover shop has been a big problem.
Fishing boat interiors are simple. They have simple seats that can be bought from lots of places. Water Ski Boats need full high quality interiors. It may surprise you when I tell you that some of the inboard water ski boat builders all use the same interior company. Seriously. The motors are all pretty much the same too. It is all cheaper for cookie cutter boats. Dyna-Ski Boats builds custom made to order boats so using a cookie cutter interior shop was not something I wanted to do and never will. Shipping interiors one at a time is a killer cost wise too. They do semi loads for the bigger companies. The first interior guy that seemed qualified, local and very interested turned out to be a flake (so far). Finding people that are qualified that can and will do the work timely had been a huge task. Logistics is also a concern. It appears I have finally solved the interior issue.
So now it is time to build the best outboard powered water ski boats in the world.
Dyna-Ski
Your patience is appreciated and Dyna-Ski customers will all benefit in the long run. I have done what is best for Dyna-Ski too. It has been hard on me as Dyna-Ski Boats is my passion.
Thanks!
Pete
ps A great internet only radio station is WLHA. It is a free app and also available for android. 5000+ song library. Or on the internet at WLHA Radio
Enjoy it and tell everyone and anyone.
Friday, March 9, 2018
UPDATE: Latest things going on at Dyna-Ski Boats
It has been a long, rough year at Dyna-Ski Boats. We are making some big changes with more to come. Please check back here for the latest or email me to learn what is happening. Once it is set it is sure to set the outboard water ski world on it's head.
Outboard motors:
Mercury has eliminated some models including the 150 Optimax two stroke. The 150 four stroke they introduced a couple years ago is still available. They have introduced a new light (481 lbs.) V-6 four stroke 209 cubic inch motor.
https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/outboard-motors/Fourstroke-V6-Outboard-Motor#specs-panel
This model is available in 175, 200 & 225 horsepower and also replaced the inline 4 cylinder Verado models. The still make the supercharged 6 cylinder inline Verado motors. Shipping is reportedly in April. We are building a 20' Open Bow that will be getting the new V-6 (200 HP) and I am very anxious to run this boat. Digital Throttle and Smart Tow will be on this package which is similar to "Perfect Pass" speed control.
All Yamaha V-6 motors are not available until April of 2019.
Evinrude is still making the V-6 E-Tec 135 HO and 150 but they no longer have all the parts to make it digital shift and throttle available from them. The mechanical controls are decent but it is hard to convince people once they use the digital controls on anything. The small block G2 is bigger and heavier than the older E-Tec motors it is supposed to replace. Smaller boats which these motors go on tend to be weight and load sensitive so manufacturers are not liking the heavier, taller, weight further back motors.
WARNING: If you send Dyna-Ski an email and your return address is a G-Mail account there can be a problem. Check your spam folders please. The problem is not on our end as nothing has changed and some g-mail addresses work just fine. We are trying to come up with a new approach to fix a new email problem again. The good old post office looks good some days to old school people like me.
That about covers the new, the bad and the problems as of today.
Outboard motors:
Mercury has eliminated some models including the 150 Optimax two stroke. The 150 four stroke they introduced a couple years ago is still available. They have introduced a new light (481 lbs.) V-6 four stroke 209 cubic inch motor.
https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/outboard-motors/Fourstroke-V6-Outboard-Motor#specs-panel
This model is available in 175, 200 & 225 horsepower and also replaced the inline 4 cylinder Verado models. The still make the supercharged 6 cylinder inline Verado motors. Shipping is reportedly in April. We are building a 20' Open Bow that will be getting the new V-6 (200 HP) and I am very anxious to run this boat. Digital Throttle and Smart Tow will be on this package which is similar to "Perfect Pass" speed control.
All Yamaha V-6 motors are not available until April of 2019.
Evinrude is still making the V-6 E-Tec 135 HO and 150 but they no longer have all the parts to make it digital shift and throttle available from them. The mechanical controls are decent but it is hard to convince people once they use the digital controls on anything. The small block G2 is bigger and heavier than the older E-Tec motors it is supposed to replace. Smaller boats which these motors go on tend to be weight and load sensitive so manufacturers are not liking the heavier, taller, weight further back motors.
WARNING: If you send Dyna-Ski an email and your return address is a G-Mail account there can be a problem. Check your spam folders please. The problem is not on our end as nothing has changed and some g-mail addresses work just fine. We are trying to come up with a new approach to fix a new email problem again. The good old post office looks good some days to old school people like me.
That about covers the new, the bad and the problems as of today.
Wednesday, October 25, 2017
Don't try this at home!
There is a water ski show team that is very well known. They are in a tourist heavy area of Wisconsin. Their boat was recently used in an ad on the back cover of USA Water Ski Magazine which claims 15,000 members.
Dyna-Ski Boats and the engine manufacturers don't suggest you try this at home or anywhere else.
It is amazing given how they treat the 20' Closed Bow Dyna-Ski twin motored boat
how long it has lasted. A recreational user of a Dyna-Ski Boat should get a life time of trouble free boat use with reasonable care given the practices some of our water ski show team owners have.
Below is the most interesting picture I have of the boat.
People send me pictures of this boat more often than any other Dyna-Ski Boat that we have sold over the years. Again don't try this anywhere at anytime. Rumor is that the driver has fallen out in the past. Lucky no one drown I think. Motors have not fared as well I hear.
Saturday, September 30, 2017
How to purchase a Dyna-Ski Boat plus Standard Equipment & Options Links
The design of blogs do not allow a person to easily go thru them so here are links to how to purchase and equip your new Dyna-Ski Boat which I am getting lots of interest in right now.
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2017/05/how-to-purchase-dyna-ski-boat-revised.html
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2017/05/dyna-ski-standard-equipment-options.html
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2017/05/how-to-purchase-dyna-ski-boat-revised.html
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2017/05/dyna-ski-standard-equipment-options.html
Thursday, September 21, 2017
Face Book and Social Media
I don't really use Facebook. I have Face Book. Sorry but since I don't use Face Book I don't friend anyone, even my wife. I really don't have the time for social media other than the Dyna-Ski website, this blog, emails and phone calls (remember those?). I also work in the Television Sports business.
Dyna-Ski is on Face Book. My high school aged son John runs the Dyna-Ski Face Book.
A water ski friend Jim has set up another Face Book. It is Dyna-Ski Enthusiasts.
Dyna-Ski has a UTube channel and son John Pfankuch has a UTube channel. John takes care of the UTube stuff.
So there you have it. Enjoy the new Face Book presence and don't forget about the others. Join them all even if you don't own a Dyna-Ski Boat.
Orders for Dyna-Ski Boats continue to come in along with orders for Recon Fishing Boats. Please do not contact Recon Boats directly if you are interested in Dyna-Ski. Boat Builder John does not have enough time either and requests for Dyna-Ski overload him more than he is already.
Dyna-Ski is on Face Book. My high school aged son John runs the Dyna-Ski Face Book.
A water ski friend Jim has set up another Face Book. It is Dyna-Ski Enthusiasts.
Dyna-Ski has a UTube channel and son John Pfankuch has a UTube channel. John takes care of the UTube stuff.
So there you have it. Enjoy the new Face Book presence and don't forget about the others. Join them all even if you don't own a Dyna-Ski Boat.
Orders for Dyna-Ski Boats continue to come in along with orders for Recon Fishing Boats. Please do not contact Recon Boats directly if you are interested in Dyna-Ski. Boat Builder John does not have enough time either and requests for Dyna-Ski overload him more than he is already.
Tuesday, August 22, 2017
Dyna-Ski Open Bow Videos
We now have a video for 20' Open Bow Boats:
Along with a video for the 17.6 Open Bow Dyna-Ski Boats:
Enjoy the new and old videos.
For more information:
info@dyna-ski.com
Phone 715-854-7501
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