Thursday, June 1, 2017

Used Dyna-Ski?

As long as I have been building Dyna-Ski Boats I have been getting calls for used Dyna-Ski Boats and Hydrodyne Boats.  People must think we have a secret process to somehow build used boats or that people trade in old Dyna-Ski Boats to us.  We don't and they don't.  Often the rare used Dyna-Ski Boat remains in the family or is sold to a neighbor. 

WARNING: Any boats used by ski teams tend to be more abused than used. 

Hydrodyne last built a couple outboards in 1993. This means any Hydrodyne outboard boats are at least 24 years old.  The old style bubble deck 18' Hydrodynes were last built in the early 1980's.  Recreational Dyna-Ski Boats do hold their value well.  Our prices along with motor and trailer prices go up every year. The amount everything goes up exceeds the interest rates that banks charge so if you want a Dyna-Ski Boat why wait?

Over many years I have helped sell two used Open Bow Dyna-Ski Boats when the owners contacted me and told me they wanted to sell their boats. They were fairly quick sales.  I have also bought and sold a couple outboard Hydrodyne boats.  I currently have a 1990 17.6 XB (closed bow) that I am redoing.

 1989 Hydrodyne 17.6 XB with a 150 Evinrude
Bought and resold as a favor to the former owner.
Sold to a close family friend and it sits on a boat lift at my house.


1990 Hydrodyne 17.6 XB available later this summer
 This boat had a tired old Evinrude 115 motor when I purchased it. The motor did run before it was removed. It was on a trailer that did not allow for a tracking fin. 

What has been done so far:
All the little nicks and holes put in the boat for snap on covers, rod holders, additional cleats, spot light, pitot tube speedometers, etc. have been repaired by our boat building shop.
New Floor
New Carpet
New Rub Rail
New Fin
Painted White
What is being done:
New motor rigging including: Teleflex Hydraulic steering, Evinrude GPS Speedometer, ICON Engine Monitoring, controls, cables, wiring, gauges, Hydrodyne dash panel, Hydrodyne mirror, horn, bilge pump and a new 150 Evinrude motor.  Boat can be purchased with or without this engine or with another new one. You can provide your own engine. I will not remove or sell the boat without the Evinrude rigging, etc.
What I have yet to decide:
Interior 
The interior pictured here is well used.

Interior for 1990 Hydrodyne 17.6 XB
 
Putting a new interior can be expensive.  Depending upon the intended use a new interior could be a simple pair of front seats or a full blown interior with wrap around seating.  The buyer can decide. For the time being I am going to put the front seats back into the boat once it is water ready in a couple weeks. 

 Wrap Around Seating in a 17.6 Dyna-Ski Open Bow

If you want me to help sell your Dyna-Ski or Hydrodyne Outboard I can as I get calls for these often.

Dyna-Ski Boats
info@dyna-ski.com
715-854-7501 (leave a message)
W6116 Pine Lane 
Crivitz, WI 54114
 
 I am pretty picky about what I will buy or take as a trade. I will consign used outboards but only if the seller is realistic. I don't get calls for inboards!  I have said thousands of times that redoing old boats is expensive.  We still redo and repair older Hydrodyne and other fiberglass boats.  We do high quality work and it is not cheap.  If you want a quick fix go to an automobile body shop but remember that you don't always get what you expect or pay for as they fix vehicles not boats usually and boats have different stresses than motor vehicles on a smooth road do.  

I have a couple beater or test boats around and almost everything is for sale!

Old style 20' Hydrodyne (1985?)
Set up for a single motor including hydraulic steering and all Evinrude motor controls. 
front mounted fuel tank
Transom was redone many years ago and is straight across so the wings that collect water, freeze and crack are gone! 
With or without trailer  
Nice cheap basic water ski boat
With or without new motor 










Monday, May 22, 2017

Dyna-Ski Standard Equipment & Options

People ask for prices often in the first email or two.  I tell them it is not an easy answer so I give a typical price and range. There really is no upper limit.  So to try and make this process easier for all of us I put together this information.  As our boat business grows and the market changes there seem to be new options every week.  When in doubt ask.  There are no dumb questions.  With custom made to order boats the sky is really the limit as well as your pocket book.  The cost of some options depends upon other things on the boat which is hard to easily explain so I don't include prices because they vary so much and suppliers increase them often.  Ordering a Dyna-Ski Boat usually takes around 40 emails by the time we are done.  Once we have a solid base of your desires we can start coming up with a firm price and then when we nail down what you want the price will be firm unless you change your mind while the boat is being built.  Customers do this sometimes. People have waited up to four years to purchase a Dyna-Ski boat from when they decided on all the options and then they are surprised when the price is much higher.  Everything we build goes up every year.  No supplier ever goes down in cost to us.  With interest rates being fairly low, buying the boat sooner (and paying reasonable interest rates) rather than later will save you more money than the increases in prices from year to year.  I hope this statement makes sense. Plus you start enjoying the boat sooner rather than later.
Interior space & people capacity:
The 17.6 Open Bow has the same passenger seating area as the 20’ Open Bow but it lacks the massive storage space of the 20’ Open Bow and passenger space of the 20’ Barefooter Open Bow. The 17.6 Open Bow is US Coast Guard rated for 5 people. Both 20' Open Bows are US Coast Guard rated for 7 people.
Standard Equipment:
Dyna-Ski 17.6 Open Bow has a two color hull, the two color interior, drivers bucket seat, passenger bench or bucket seat, standard rear bench seat, boarding platform with ladder, Teleflex tilt Hydraulic steering*, Recessed Control, 3" GPS Speedometer and 3” Tachometer, 2" fuel, trim, water pressure and voltmeter, High Efficiency cables, motor wiring, oil tank with one gallon of oil, $25.00 of gasoline, battery, 4 bladed stainless steel prop also includes mounting the motor and water testing if possible on a new black custom welded Phoenix bunk trailer with full length center bunks, bow stops, vertical side guides, four bunks and swing tongue.
 *The hydraulic steering can be changed for non feedback steering which is less expensive if a non V-6 engine is put on a 17.6 Open Bow.  
Dyna-Ski 20' Open Bow has a two color hull, the two color interior, drivers bucket seat, passenger bench or bucket seat, standard rear bench seat, boarding platform with ladder, Teleflex tilt Hydraulic steering, Recessed Control, 3" GPS Speedometer and 3” Tachometer, 2" fuel, trim, water pressure and voltmeter gauges, High Efficiency cables, motor wiring, oil tank with one gallon of oil, $25.00 of gasoline, battery, 4 bladed stainless steel prop also includes mounting the motor and water testing if possible on a new black custom welded Phoenix bunk trailer with full length center bunks, bow stops, vertical side guides, four bunks, swing tongue and surge brakes. 
Dyna-Ski 20' Open Bow Barefooter has a two color hull, the two color interior, drivers bucket seat, passenger bench or bucket seat, standard rear bench seat, boarding platform with ladder, Teleflex tilt Hydraulic steering, Recessed Control, 3" GPS Speedometer and 3” Tachometer, 2" fuel, trim, water pressure and voltmemter gauges, High Efficiency cables, motor wiring, oil tank with one gallon of oil, $25.00 of gasoline, battery, 4 bladed stainless steel prop also includes mounting the motor and water testing if possible on a new black custom welded Phoenix bunk trailer with full length center bunks, bow stops, vertical side guides, four bunks, swing tongue and surge brakes.
The Barefooter does not have a sun deck so there is more interior space than the 20’ Dyna-Ski Open Bow.
Engine capacity:
17.6 Open Bow is US Coast Guard rated for a maximum of a 150 HP engine.  We rate the 20' Open Bow models for a 250 HP engine. Maximum horsepower engines will push the boats faster than you need to barefoot water ski. Dyna-Ski Boats are not go fast boats they are water ski boats with tracking fins for stability. 

Engines:  Evinrude E-Tech and Mercury Optimax are both two cycle (stroke) engines and cost about the same in the end.  I suggest you purchase the brand of motor you can easily get serviced locally.  The motor is really the only piece of the boat that should ever need service. We do not have much call for other brands of engines (I assume) because of the additional cost.
Engine options:
Evinrude G2 Engines
Mercury Four Stroke Verado Engines
Power Assist for the hydraulic steering.  Often added to multiple engine Dyna-Ski Boats.
Evinrude G2 engines come standard with electronic controls. Power assist hydraulic steering is available on the G2 engine.
I-CONN Digital Controls & Engine Monitoring for V-6 Evinrude Motors (Digital Throttle & Shift)
SmartCraft Digital Controls & Engine Monitoring (Digital Throttle & Shift) for Mercury 175 and larger Verado Motors. This option can be ordered and is very similar to a Perfect Pass system they claim.
Colors:
Dyna-Ski Boats hulls are usually white with an accent stripe.  The deck is usually white.  The top color choice is a red stripe although blue and black are gaining market share.  An all white Dyna-Ski boat costs a little less than one with a colored stripe. A solid color other than white costs more money. Boats that are mainly white seem to not show their age or be dated by the color.  Boats that are colors other than white tend to be dated by the color chosen.  Our graphics supplier can do boat wraps but wraps tend to only hold up for a couple years.
Single color hull
Two Color hull (standard is white with a colored stripe)
Three Color hull
Metallic Colors
Additional Boarding Platform
Ladder for additional Boarding Platform
Interiors:
Single Color Interior
Two Color Interior (standard)
Three Color Interior
Wrap Around Rear Seating  (a straight rear bench seat is standard)        
Covers & Tops:
Snap On Bow Cover        
Snap On Cock Pit Cover  
Mooring Cover
Bimini Tops                
Other water ski accessories:
KW Motor Guard                                      
KW Trick Release                              
Barefoot International V-Drive Boom                                         
Barefoot Boom Extension  (one or two of these are excellent for Dyna-Ski Boats with the rear mounted pylon)
Barefoot Boom Height Adjuster (makes possible quick adjustments of the height of the barefoot boom)
KW Extended Pylon (replaces the stock Dyna-Ski Pylon)                                   
Barefoot International w2923 Tower     
Barefoot International  w2906 Board Racks
Sound Equipment:
We can do AM/FM radios, power amps and such but I always suggest that you do them yourself or have a local shop do them.  Sound equipment is the biggest source of problems in boats so having a local supplier is best I feel.  There are locations for speakers and we can run wires if you like.
Trailers:
If you live on a lake and only use your trailer for off season storage the bow stops and vertical side guides can be eliminated but the savings are slight.
Tandem Trailer for a 20' Open Bow painted black with brakes on one axle with bow stops and vertical side guides.  Tandem trailers are harder to push around the driveway and in the garage.
Galvanized trailers are available for salt water use.
Weights:
We put the 17.6 Open Bow on a 2800 lbs capacity trailer*. The 17.6 Open Bow boats seem to be fine on a 2000 lbs capacity lift.  The 20' Open Bows get a 3000 lbs capacity trailer with brakes.  A 2500 lbs capacity lift works decent for the single motored 20' boats.  It is better to have to excess lift or trailer capacity than to be undersized.  *A 2800 lbs capacity trailer is the weight capacity on the trailer with the length we need for the 17.6 model. A trailer with less weight capacity is shorter, to short.  There is little if any additional cost for the excess trailer capacity.   
 
You can email Dyna-Ski at info@dyna-ski.com or 
call 715-854-7501 to purchase your last boat.

Sunday, May 21, 2017

How to purchase a Dyna-Ski Boat Revised

 Dyna-Ski 17.6 Open Bow with a three color interior

It seemed obvious to me that if you want to buy a Dyna-Ski Boat the best way to do it is email or call Dyna-Ski Boats.  I have learned that people are not used to contacting the manufacturer directly and actually talking, emailing or texting with the person that owns the company about what they are interested in.  Every Dyna-Ski boat is custom made for the owner.  I seldom have a new boat on hand as the owners want them right away although I try to build a demo or two every year.  Often times the demo gets sold before it hits the water as a demo.  Dyna-Ski owners are all over the world so you can get a Dyna-Ski Boat if you want one.  Email: info@dyna-ski.com or call 715-854-7501.


Dyna-Ski 20' Open Bow with a single color wrap around interior


20' Open Bow Barefooter with a three color hull
  I have learned that it is better to look thru the information on this blog first, get some ball park pricing and then decide how you want your Dyna-Ski built. The blog has answers to questions and information that people have asked me about over the years and continue to ask every year.  The most expensive options are wrap around seating and digital shift and throttle which are both popular.  I wish that it had a better way to index the information other than by the date the posts are written. Sorry.

20' Open Bow with my son in tow on a ski board several years ago

Some shoppers inquire about used Dyna-Ski or left over boats.  There are not any left overs or non currents as dealers and manufacturers often call them.  It is not common for owners to sell their Dyna-Ski or even their old Hydrodynes.  Keep in mind that Hydrodynes were last built in the early 1990's.  Often the boats are given to the kids or sold to a neighbor and seldom does anyone inform Dyna-Ski that their boat is for sale.  If a used Dyna-Ski is available they tend to command top dollar and sell quickly during the boating season. We build Dyna-Ski water ski boats, Recon fishing boats and skiffs at the boat shop in Iola, WI. We are building more and more every year.  It is hard to guarantee exactly when a boat will be finished because we are a small company as boat builders go and most suppliers are not good.  Boats are built in the order that is determined by when the deposit arrives.  We do our best to keep the stuff we need to build boats in stock and we now have a much larger facility so hopefully things will improve.  Suppliers have grown awful over the past 3 to 5 years and they don't seem to care.



2015 Dyna-Ski 17.6 Open Bow headed to the owners boat house

The best way to get it rolling is to contact me (Pete) at info@dyna-ski.com or call 715-854-7501 and leave a message.   I reply typically within a day often the same day so if you have not gotten an email check your spam folder.  I am not glued to my phone (yet).  It is OK to send multiple emails or call multiple times. Remember that email is not 100% and voice mail isn't either plus there is the human element (me) so there is a chance I didn't get your message or I misplaced it.  I talk to many people in a week about the same things (Dyna-Ski Boats).  I prefer email as this provides a paper trail but even email isn't perfect.  I often return calls from my cell phone which I also text from.  If I get a call on my cell phone I answer it unless I cannot talk in which case I will call you back when I have time to talk.  715-854-7501 is not a cell phone so don't waste your time texting this number.

Dyna-Ski Boats builds some very unique products.  Our boats are built strong and we use the same materials and techniques to build every Dyna-Ski Boat. There isn't as much material (weight) in the Open Bow boats as there is required in the 20' Closed Bow model unless you want to order your boat this way.

 20' Dyna-Ski Closed Bow with 3-300 hp Evinrude Motors
60 person Guinness World Record Pyramid it pulled 
 30 Barefooters behind Badgerland's Triple 300 G2 motors with Jason Hook driving
  
The fastest way to send money to Dyna-Ski is to overnight a personal check using the post office.  Wire Transfers take your bank and mine time to process them plus the banks charge more than the post office.  Besides I like to help keep the Post Office in business. You should not require a signature because no one is usually in the home office when the mail person comes and my mail box is 500' from the house which means it does not work out well.  Often times the mail person will put the overnight envelope in my door.  Given the rural location of my house/office on Lake Noquebay in Wisconsin there isn't anyone around to swipe my mail.   

What are you waiting for? 
Email: info@dyna-ski.com or call 715-854-7501. 

Thursday, May 18, 2017

Bimini Top, Mooring Cover & Shrink Wrapped

More and more people are asking about a Bimini Top.  The Boat Shop just finished up a Bimini Top and Mooring Cover for a 17.6 Open Bow headed to Malaysia.  The pictures were supplied by the talented person that does the work. Christine is very good as are all the members of the hard working crew. The best fitting Bimini tops and best fitting covers are made for the actual boat and fitted onto the actual boat. That isn't to say that accessories cannot be made and shipped but boats do vary slightly and that slight difference might come into play getting the very best fit plus we don't always have a boat available to make the cover and test it on.  None of our boat covers or Bimini tops are made from patterns.




17.6 Open Bow with a mooring cover

17.6 Open Bow ready for shipment

Wednesday, December 14, 2016

We are growing rapidly!


 The new Boat Building Shop
This is good and bad.  Short term the moving may cause us lots of problems, long term we should be better able to meet the needs of our customers.  The old Boat Shop was 4,800 square feet.  The new Boat Shop is 50,000 square feet.  Yes you read that correctly.  The new building is more than 10 times bigger than the old one.  Bigger buildings bring bigger headaches but eventually it will allow us to build more boats faster and do a lot more repairs faster.  Everything can be inside!  Now we need to keep it busy year round.  As of today we are 16 weeks out.  Do the math that is 4 months.  Obviously we have a fair number of firm orders.  Dyna-Ski boats has lots of recreational and ski team shoppers and Recon Fishing Boats is doing well also.  The skiff business is slow thankfully.

 Final testing before shipment to the Caribbean
 Our international distribution is growing. 
This 20' Open Bow Dyna-Ski boat will be pulling guests of the resort on the ocean.

 Jason with Badgerland's Triple Evinrude 300 G2's pulled numerous 
Guinness World Records this year.
Please don't try this maneuver at home.

The most powerful Dyna-Ski ever was built with 
three 350 hp Mercury Verado Engines
Aquanuts driver Todd Renn the owner of Twin Lakes Marine built their third triple.  So the Twin Lakes Aquanuts now have three triples and two inboard tow boats.


Dyna-Ski and Recon are growing.  Dyna-Ski Boats are all custom made to order and there are no plans to change this method of making sure all our customers get exactly what they desire because people seem to buy their last boat from us and keep them. This is why there are seldom any used Dyna-Ski Boats available.  We have come a long ways and will be around for a long time to come.  You should know by now that we are a boat building company that also does repairs and upholstery.  The repair business allows us to see how the other companies build their boats so we also learn from them both the good and bad.  We repair lots of inboard water ski boats and fishing boats.  Doing upholstery work means we buy more materials which helps lower our material costs a great deal.  Repair and upholstery work ultimately helps the bottom line and keeps the staff busy.  Keep in mind that we can never have to many new boat orders but the line gets longer quicker than even I think it will.  The repair business fits in well filling the holes (time) in the boat building cycle. It is a fact that the prices of most everything go up every year so waiting means you pay more and missed out on a season or more of fun on the water.

Soon it will be summer!
What are you waiting for?

Sunday, September 18, 2016

World Record Tow Boats

I don't often post much about the Dyna-Ski 20' Closed Bow models which are mainly purchased by water ski show teams. These groups use these specialty Dyna-Ski tow boats to pull acts in their shows. The boats usually are powered by two or three large outboard engines.  The number of skiers these boats are capable of pulling is amazing.  In this article you will see pictures of some of the official Guinness World Records that have been pulled so far.

Dyna-Ski 20' Closed Bow with three 350 hp Mercury Verado engines. 
Todd Renn of Twin Lakes Marine built and drives the Aquanuts Dyna-Ski Tow boat. They have three triple motored Dyna-Ski Tow Boats.

 
Dyna-Ski Tow boat that has pulled most of the records is powered by three 300 hp Evinrude G2 engines.  Badgerland Water Ski Show Team in Wisconsin's Dyna-Ski is driven by Jason Hook.
They have two triples and two twin Dyna-Ski Tow Boats.

 Guinness World Record 60 Person Pyramid
 Guinness World Record 30 Barefoot Water Skiers
See the video and many others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGu0laCWFHI
40 Girl Ballet Line
See the video and many others at: 
 
 19 Mixed Double Couples
Beaverland Must Skis 5 High Human Pyramid
While not a world record there are not many ski teams that have done this dangerous pyramid.
Beaverland Must Skis Triple and Twin Dyna-Ski 
Evinrude G2 powered tow boats

The same people that build these powerful water ski boats can build you a new Dyna-Ski Water Ski boat.  All the same types of materials and techniques are used to build all Dyna-Ski boats. We build them strong enough for this extreme use so we can build one for you that will last a lifetime.

Sunday, September 11, 2016

Index to the articles on the Dyna-Ski Blog

This blog and others are in the order the posts are put on the blog according to the date posted so as you have or will notice it can be a pain to find what you may want.  I will keep this at or near the top of the blog.  I picked the postings I think you might be most interested if you want to know more about Dyna-Ski Boats with the best ones in my opinion near the top.  There are many other good articles I am told as questions and information I get via email and the phone are the basis for the blog posts. The first few posts have links to make it easy.

Dyna-Ski Videos       Monday, January 18, 2016
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2016/01/dyna-ski-videos.html 
17.6 vs 20 Open Bow Dyna-Ski   Saturday, January 21, 2012
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2012/01/176-vs-20-open-bow-dyna-ski.html
Storage Space
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2016/09/storage-space.ht
Speed Control or "Perfect Pass" on an Outboard 
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2016/08/speed-control-or-perfect-pass-type-of.html
How to buy a Dyna-Ski Boat        Friday, January 22, 2016
http://www.dynaskiboats.com/2016/01/how-to-buy-dyna-ski-boat.html

What color Dyna-Ski?      Saturday, January 2, 2016 
Interiors & Sound Systems         Sunday, January 3, 2016
Wrap Around Rear Seat       Tuesday, August 26, 2014
Decals & Color Combinations        Monday, March 17, 2014
Upgrading to Evinrude digital controls    Thursday, June 18, 2015
What makes a decent water ski boat?         Saturday, February 14, 2015
So you are thinking about a used inboard instead of a Dyna-Ski?    Monday, January 13, 2014
Dyna-Ski Open Bows with towers      Friday, January 30, 2015
Hylons or Extended Pylons       Wednesday, August 13, 2014 
Bimini Top on a Dyna-Ski     Tuesday, June 17, 2014 
Barefoot Booms on Dyna-Ski Boats    Sunday, July 28, 2013

Digital Engine Control & Monitoring      Tuesday, June 17, 2014
Touch a Dyna-Ski before you buy?       Tuesday, February 3, 2015
If you want to try it before you buy it?    Sunday, April 14, 2013 
How long does it take to build a boat?    Sunday, April 14, 2013 
New Trend?   Tuesday, March 5, 2013

Information Inquiries & Reply Troubles?    Friday, May 10, 2013
17.6 Wake    Wednesday, July 25, 2012 
20' Barefooter including interior shots   Thursday, July 19, 2012 
20' Open Bow Pictures including interior shots   Thursday, July 19, 2012 
Dyna-Ski 17.6 Open Bow Pictures including interior shots   Thursday, July 12, 2012 
Things to consider when buying a Dyna-Ski Boat or others Friday, March 9, 2012 
17.6 Open Bow performance with a 115   Saturday, March 3, 2012 
17.6 Open Bow with a 90 E-Tec   Saturday, March 3, 2012 
Dyna-Ski 17.6 Open Bow Barefoooting Pictures   Monday, February 20, 2012 
Outboards, back in?    Monday, February 20, 2012 
Dyna-Ski Outboard compared to other outboards boats.  Tuesday, January 24, 2012 
Fine Tuning a water ski boat     Saturday, August 16, 2014
Hydraulic Steering    Wednesday, March 28, 2012